After reading the book 'Twice As Far', the reader of this website will immediately know that what
Larry Vance has written here strays
drastically from the truth.
For instance, the TSB's investigation did not
determine exactly where and how the fire
started. Instead, it merely provided a
possible location by pointing to the only
place the TSB could legally attribute a fire
source, and that action was based on mere
speculation by believing that they had
correctly positioned the burnt wires.
The
reader will know exactly how Jim Foot
arrived at his final placement of those
wires, and his methods can hardly be
called reliable.
Even if Foot happened to be correct in the
placement of some of the many burnt wires,
what he determined to have been the original
short-circuit event was merely that, the
first short-circuit event, and it occurred
because the insulation had been burnt away
by the fire that had already started. In every
fire where there are live and active wires,
there is usually at least one short-circuit
even though it was not the cause of the
fire. In this case, there were nearly
three dozen short-circuit events at one time
or another during the course of the fire.
As for any 'ambiguity about this finding',
what ever you say, Larry! The TSB ran
their investigation on a need to know basis.
When I told several of the members about the
percentages of magnesium that had been found
in some of the beads, they were astonished
even though they had been working on the
file and attending the weekly information
meetings. Many times, even John
Garstang and Don Enns informed me that they
did not know of certain results. So,
who decided? Can there be any
ambiguity when it was only the retired Air
Force Colonel, Vic Gerden, who made the
decisions.
"The 'lead-event' arc cannot be explained
....". Larry, along with his people in
the TSB, from the very start, assumed that
the cause of the fire was a 'lead arcing
event', and nothing else. When you
enter an investigation with only a limited
scope of safety and a pre-conceived opinion of the
cause, then the evidence gathered is limited
to the requirements to substantiate that
cause while other evidence is ignored or
discarded. The levels of magnesium,
iron, and aluminium in the short-circuited
wires was indeed ignored and then discarded.
What's more, when the credentials for the
investigators of the TSB are examined, they
can only show one TSB investigator to have
had any training in fire investigation, and
that was John Garstang. The
book 'Twice As Far' informs you of what he
thought of the fire cause. Vic Gerden,
Larry Vance, and many of the others were
simply pilots with no investigative skills
at all. Others were knowledgeable in
aircraft maintenance and construction, but
they had no knowledge of fire
investigations. Remember that this was
not an investigation to determine the cause
of the crash, as we learned very quickly
that the cause could only be attributed to
extreme fire damage. The
investigation's primary purpose was to
determine the cause of the fire. Only
Garstang and I had that fire investigative
training along with a knowledge of the
damaged area of the aircraft.
Vance mentions ‘effort by the RCMP to access
the potential for a criminal involvement’.
After reading the book ‘Twice As Far’,
anyone will understand just how limited that
effort was by the RCMP's management. There never was an
official criminal investigation conducted by
the Force, and any attempt that I made was
immediately thwarted by my supervisors.
There was no passenger profiling to
determine exactly who was on the plane,
why they were there, or if they were a
target. There was no cargo
verification, especially for the diamonds.
We don't even know how they were shipped, or
even if they were ever on the plane. Unknown at the time of the program, it
is possible that a courier may have been carrying the
diamonds in a case fastened to his wrist,
and it was possibly retrieved by the divers of the USS
Grapple. The TSB knew nothing about it or why would Gerden have asked for
verification of the diamond cargo.
Neither did the RCMP know of it, or they
would have told the TSB. Now that's some kind of
an investigation when more than a billion
dollars worth of diamonds are unaccounted
for by the investigative agencies.
Vance mentions the tracking of the exhibits
and wreckage pieces. That initially
was for any potential court case,
considering the fact that there was a
16-billion-dollar civil suit before the
courts. However, later that diligence
served its purpose for the TSB because there
were so many important pieces of wreckage.
In the book I recount the problems the TSB
had in locating pieces of debris after I
left the hangar. If it hadn’t been for
the organized methods of the RCMP’s exhibit
control system, they would have been in a
severe mess as they had never undertaken
such a major task and didn’t known where to
begin on the first days.
Vance mentions that every piece of debris
was examined by fire and explosive experts
of the RCMP. He fails to mention that
I was one of those experienced fire
investigators. However, just like the
senior management of the RCMP, if there had
been an incendiary device, the TSB
management along with Vance, Foot, and Sidlay somehow
expected to find its burnt-out remains.
Incendiary devices are designed to burn,
thereby leaving nothing behind.
However, as indicated in the book, trace
evidence in the form of magnesium, iron, and
aluminium was left behind, in the
short-circuited wire beads.
Vance goes on to mention Auger Electron
Spectroscopy (AES) and its unreliable
results. Who in the RCMP and the TSB
had the qualification to make such a claim? Dr. Brown’s results
worried the TSB and RCMP supervisors
sufficiently that they influenced his final
report by telling him that he would not be
paid for his services unless he removed any
mention of magnesium from his final report.
That is a criminal act on the part of the
TSB and RCMP senior members. Vance
goes on to mention sea water, yet testing
was performed that totally eliminated sea
water as the possible source.
When Vance mentions the quantity of
magnesium found, he is borrowing from Jim
Foot. I believe that Foot never took a
chemistry or physics class in his entire
life because he just could not or perhaps
he refused to understand the implications of
the AES findings. However, the TSB
would have lost control of the file had the
matter been turned over to the RCMP and the
FBI for a proper criminal investigation.
Larry Vance also fails to understand that my
primary role in the investigation was as an
RCMP Forensic Crime Scene Investigator, a
police officer. Assisting the TSB in
various other roles allowed me to perform
that investigation. Indeed, Assistant
Commissioner Conlin, in her report, agreed
that I was a police officer carrying out a
criminal investigation. Vance’s
baseball analogy is surely his attempt at a
joke. It in effect shows just how
Vance and his superiors approached the file,
in that it was not a serious life and death
situation. Two
hundred and twenty-nine people died in this
crash, and Vance is comparing it to a
baseball game. However, even his
comparison is wrong. With the work
that I performed and the advice and
assistance that I provided, it would have
been more appropriate for him to say that I
was the team’s trainer instead of saying I
was an outfielder. Actually, the joke
is on him because he was a rookie when it
came to major investigations and physical
evidence. He was still in his initial
training phase. However,
Vance, like Gerden, believed that all one
needed to be was a pilot in order to
understand the file.
Vance’s last paragraph is a futile attempt
to place more discredit at my feet.
However, I had no control over what the CBC
broadcast in their program. As well,
one has to remember that a very large
percentage of the viewers, at the time of
the accident some thirteen years earlier
would not yet have been in their teens and
would have known nothing about the accident.
However, there again, Vance is setting
himself up as an expert in the correct
methods of yet another field, that of
broadcast journalism.
Larry Vance has recently become involved in
the MH-370 missing aircraft in the Indian
Ocean, as well as an old Canadian aircrash
in British Columbia. By simply viewing one small
piece of flap material possibly from the
MH-370 flight, he was able to
establish the method of destruction of the
aircraft and all those on board. This
is all contrary to the opinions of everyone
else involved in the crash investigation and
the search for the aircraft. Larry
Vance, who was merely a pilot at the time of
the Swissair 111 crash investigation, has
expertise in many areas, whether he is trained or not
in those areas.
What is interesting regarding Vance's stand
as the Assistant Lead Investigator for this
accident and his having taken on the role as
the TSB's defacto 'spokesperson' for this
matter some years after his retirement from
the TSB is the fact that the results of the
tests were fabricated in favour of an
electrical accidental cause. The burn
tests at the FAA showed that there was
insufficient fire-load in the top of the
aircraft to do the damage that was done,
that is until the final test was undertaken.
In order to make that test a TSB success,
they overloaded the test frame with as much
as six or more times the amount of fuel
normally available in the top of the
aircraft, and burnt it in a favourable
manner so that it created a fire storm in
the test frame. At the same time, Dr.
Brown was intimidated and coerced into
altering his AES results so that there was
no further indication of the elements of an
incendiary device in the electricl short
circuits. Larry Vance, as the second
in charge, would have known of these
occurrances. Because they were put
forward in a manner that supported the TSB's
reported and published results as to the
accidental electrical cause of the fire, it
makes those people associated with these
actions guilty of criminal offences.
In my opinion, Larry Vance either knew of or
reasonably should have known of these
criminal activities, and as such, it makes
him morally and criminally responsible along with others
in the TSB.